Founder of the experiential events and production company Beyond 8, Brittney Escovedo is a creative force in the art and fashion industries. She founded Beyond 8 on lessons from her business-savvy mother, who allowed Brittney to run a company at age 18, and grandmother, who inspired the company name. To date, Brittney has collaborated with clients including Pyer Moss, Gucci, Rachel Comey, Reebok, Solange Knowles, Sephora, W Hotels, and more. In this episode, Brittney talks with hosts Susan and Todd about the leadership power of women-run businesses and how the Black Lives Matter movement has shaped opportunities for creatives in the art and fashion economies.
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Behind the Scenes with Beyond 8
Pyer Moss at King's Theater
I'm Susan Barrett, and I'm Todd Thomas. At Barrett Barrera Projects, we believe that ART IS A VERB — it’s the ongoing process of de-constructing and re-constructing our world.
This season, we'll delve deep into the creative processes of some of our most inspiring friends and collaborators, to understand how they are navigating this pivotal moment and working to transform our existing systems, reimagine the status quo, and support each other across disciplines, in order to create a more sustainable, and equitable future for us all.
Welcome to ART IS A VERB, a Barrett Barrera Project.
In this episode, we are speaking with Brittney Escovedo - a powerful force in the world of experiential events, and the founder of her own international event production company, Beyond 8.
Brittney has worked with a diverse range of clients, including Pyer Moss, Gucci, Rachel Comey, Reebok, Solange Knowles, Sephora, W Hotels and Culture Con.
The shows she's produced for Pyer Moss have been called revolutionary in the world of fashion.
Welcome, Brittney. Thank you for joining us.
Brittney: [00:00:37] I'm so excited to be here with you guys. Thanks for having me.
Susan: [00:00:40] I like to say that Art is a Verb. And by that, I mean that it's not the final product, but it's the process, and it's the whole trip that takes you through that process ending up in the final product. And it seems that with your company, everything you're doing is about having an Art as a Verb.
So you're always sort of arting and using the experience as your form of art, is that what you would say you're doing?
Brittney: [00:01:08] Yeah, I think what is important to me is intention more than anything, and it's really about being excited about what you're creating. So part of what I love about production is that I get to work with so many different clients on so many different types of projects. And the beauty of that is that I get to create unique experiences for each one of them, and also tailored to each of them, which is very different than say, if I worked in PR and I had a retainer client and you're working more or less in the ethos of one client all the time. So art for me and what I do, yeah, it is creative, it's artistic, it's unique, and it's with a ton of intention.
Todd: [00:01:52] That's great. Before we go too deeply into the theory and the actions of what you do. How's the quarantine experience been for you? Where are you at now?
Brittney: [00:02:01] So I love that you say “now,” ‘cause that's very, that's the most important word in that sentence? ‘Cause quarantine has been a roller coaster. Let me tell you, I actually went to Ghana and to Kenya in March as a short vacation, because the top of our year was actually so crazy. And while I was flying back from Ghana that's when everything started hitting the fan, I was receiving emails and text messages that events were getting pushed and canceled.
And I didn't know what I was coming back to. I really honestly thought, wow, in the next 30 days I could lose my company altogether. So what I did was I really focused for 30 days to close out all of our projects. I did whatever I could to keep any projects that I thought might have the possibility of happening, going.
And then after about 30 to 45 days, everything pretty much went to a screeching halt. And then for the next, I don't know, 30 or 45 days, it was pretty quiet, and there were days that I was very sad. There were days I was anxious. There were days that I was at peace and there were days I felt a lot of love and community, but every single day was completely different.
And I think right now people are starting to pick up a bit more in the last couple of weeks. People are starting to reach out. There's a huge interest in working with Black and Brown-owned companies as a whole. So I have a few additional conversations that are taking place that weren't previously. And so I'm busy-ish... in a new type of way of busy right now.
Todd: [00:03:45] I mean, that seems to be the general consensus of everyone that we've spoken to is just the coming in waves of emotion and the ability to comprehend, you know, the situation and what our lives will look like as we emerge from us.
Brittney: [00:04:00] For sure. And one thing I will say, my financial advisor who I love and adore, Shaundra, she told me in the very beginning to really accept reality quickly, like, the faster I accepted what was happening and the, we probably wouldn't be able to produce events for the next, I mean, she said like six to nine months, and this was in March and I was like, absolutely not Shaundra. We'll be doing events by summer.
What are you talking about? And she really advised that I prepare. To not do anything for quite some time. And with her advice, I was accepting of our reality and was able to pivot and move forward and be optimistic, even if I didn't have that much going on.
Susan: [00:04:43] One thing that's so interesting is
that
Brittney: [00:04:45] your
Susan: [00:04:46] business and
Brittney: [00:04:47] your form of art
Susan: [00:04:48] is so dependent on people coming together.
Which means very space specific. How is space changed now for you in terms of getting together in terms of being together and in terms of having. That sort of energy and that kind of art that you create,
Brittney: [00:05:08] that's obviously
Susan: [00:05:09] focused on everyone's collective energy.
Brittney: [00:05:12] It's changed tremendously. I mean, you see, there's so many examples of DJs and events and experiences that are now digital and there's pros to them.
You have the opportunity to have talent in many different markets that are live streaming in. You have the BT awards that was just the other night, completely virtual and prerecorded and not with an audience. And some of those experiences are good. Some of them are great. I think denies, deejaying on Instagram live.
Has been a blessing and then some of them more or less miss the mark. And I think for me, we're just trying to figure out what makes the most sense for us and what spaces and experiences can we create that will actually still be impactful. Still be exciting are well-produced cause that's very important to me.
And looking at what we can do. So right now we're working on a drive in screening and that's, what's really exciting to me at this point, but I think it's going to be very different. I think we now need to think about every single touch point, even as we see restaurants opening up, even if they're just outdoor seating.
You have like QR codes that you're scanning so that guests aren't touching menus, the simplest things that we took for granted. Now we have to rethink that experience and how guests and customers interact with anything in their physical space.
Todd: [00:06:41] It's taking a lot of agility to maneuver into the how to, you know, approach work now.
Brittney: [00:06:48] Which in some ways it's a little exciting think outside the box.
Susan: [00:06:53] It's exciting because you get to reinvent what is experience and what is
Brittney: [00:07:00] especially
Susan: [00:07:01] a collective experience. So. Does this podcast create a collective experience? And if so, now we're not bound by location. Essentially the three of us can come together.
We always could. But is this going to be a more important form of. Pulling people together then location.
Brittney: [00:07:22] I think so. And I think a lot of people are going to expect additional resources and ways to tap into experiences, whether they are physically in a space or not. But around the world, people are really going to want to be able to have access virtually and through live streams.
It's no longer going to be a nice to have. It's almost going to be a requirement because you have all these people that are around the world, seeing everything at the same time, you know,
Todd: [00:07:52] the interesting thing is it kind of. Evens the playing field a little bit as far as access goes, because
Brittney: [00:07:58] I agree
Todd: [00:07:59] nobody has to act in a way.
Brittney: [00:08:02] I agree.
Todd: [00:08:02] So there's that. And then how do we transmit and how do people receive is a whole new concept really?
Brittney: [00:08:09] Is there going to be like a virtual bouncer?
Susan: [00:08:13] You can't get in. You are not
Brittney: [00:08:15] dressed well enough to get it. I hope not. I think that's one of, that's one of the beautiful parts of, and why I think Denai says it live did so well is because you had Michelle Obama in there.
You have all of these. Artists and musicians and Naomi Campbell, and you're in there right with them like you're texting and messaging the exact same way they are from their home, having the same dance party that they're having. They might have a much larger house, but same experience. And for that, I think it's wonderful.
It opens up more opportunities
Todd: [00:08:53] just to go back and give us a little bit of history, because you have an interesting background that's really connected to your family and that I know informed what you do. And you grew up in the Bay area and your mother was an entrepreneur. You come from a musical family, your father was a musician.
And your company beyond date is kind of named in honor of your grandmother. Who was a civil rights activist. Can you tell us about your upbringing and how that informed what you do
Brittney: [00:09:21] now? Yeah, absolutely. I actually mentioned, grew up in the Bay area and my mother taught me so much. It's such a young age. I mean, she instilled the value of buying a home and owning property.
When we were young, I went to a predominantly white elementary school. And I lived in a specific area so that we could go to that school. My mom really valued education. She was adamant about the fact that we went to school, went to college, got good grades, did extra programs. All of the things that most mothers would want for their kids.
And then there was a time when she wanted to be able to save and buy a home. And so we downsized, we went from this really great house and it's a great neighborhood to a, not so great space for a bit. It was a one bedroom apartment and. I just learned from her, like the value of sacrifice for ownership and just the value of prioritizing your family.
And then on the other hand, I had my dad who was a musician, so he was on the road a lot of the times. He was traveling a lot. He would be gone for three months at a time and he lived a very different lifestyle. So my dad was working at night. He thought it was a lot of value to have his kids at gigs and with the family and things like that.
So he didn't even understand why we needed to go to school so much. My dad was like, they should be playing and they should be at the gigs and they should be having fun. And I think that I'm. Such a beautiful mix between the two, because I have. The carefree attitude of my dad and I have the creativity and the love and adoration for people's crafts and for musicians from him.
And then I have the business sense and the discipline and the organizational skills from my mom. And when I was in maybe. High school. She started her own company and she actually did it on the side. So she was working a full time job. She was working at the hospital and clinical research, and then she started a DME company.
So she sold C-PAP machines, bi-level machines, titration devices, and she did it after hours. And I'll never forget. She had a small crate in the trunk of her car and it started with. One patient folder and then it grew to five and then 20, and then she had two crates and then she had an office and I actually was grateful and honored to be able to run her company when I was 18 years old.
So while I was in college, I was able to actually learn from her, run her company by day, while she was working her full time job. And I think all of those experiences really informed who I've become and how I'm now running my own company today.
Todd: [00:12:13] With integrity and awareness and...
Brittney: [00:12:16] ...and family values. Respect is so important and love and care is so important. When I first moved to New York, I worked for a PR firm that was really, really toxic. And I was coming into the fashion industry 11 or so years ago. And the experience was very tough. People were very harsh.
Todd: [00:12:38] Totally. 100%, Brittney. I mean, we had Dario Calmese on...
Brittney: [00:12:42] I love Dario!
Todd: [00:12:44] and we were talking about, we just touched on with him, like his work now. What's remarkable to me as somebody who's been in the fashion industry or around the fashion and arts industry for 30 years now, and kind of growing up in it, is how toxic it was. And how that was just part and parcel of like, what it was.
Brittney: [00:13:01] It was the expectation.
Todd: [00:13:04] It was. And now slowly that's changed. And I think the circumstances that we've been through recently with the pandemic and uprising, I think it's lifted the veil up and people are like, really, I mean, I think there really is a chance for some type of change now, but I just feel so in awe of this new wave of people that are making things happen, like you. [Susan: Same.] You are setting a different tone, and it's so important that that happens. So thank you.
Brittney: [00:13:30] I mean, I'll never forget when Conde Nast went through the first lawsuit in those interns fought them and said, we cannot be treated this way. These are unfair conditions. And I believe that was the catalyst of Fashion actually having to hold a mirror up to themselves and say, Hey, maybe we do need to do things differently. Maybe we aren't in this insulated bubble where we can operate in any fashion we want, it's just not fair. You have to treat people well. And I took so many lessons from that initial internship and that first job, and I treat my staff the complete opposite of almost everything that I experienced there, because there's no reason for people to be disrespected or edified.
There's no reason for them to be degraded in any manner. We should all feel celebrated and happy. It doesn't matter how much do you weigh where you come from, what your cultural backgrounds are. Everyone should be honored.
Susan: [00:14:34] I totally agree. And with Todd, I grew up in architecture and design and art, and those same sort of dictates, which I always thought were very fraternity. Like it was almost like a constant hazing. And that you had to prove yourself for no reason. There is no reason to come in on a Saturday, but it was expected as a new architect. You come in every Saturday and that's just what you do, even if there's nothing for you to do. And it was so strange. And yet it was so accepted.
Brittney: [00:15:10] It was normal.
Susan: [00:15:12] It was such “The system.” That was the system.
Todd: [00:15:15] But I mean, that's part of the system of building the power and the wealth on exploiting others, on exploiting the free help, when making people feel like these are the dues that you have to pay to be part of this.
Brittney: [00:15:25] And that's a big thing--you said “free help.” That's the distinction. That's what people don't view. It's not free help. You're actually giving these students an opportunity to learn from you. That's the problem. People would think of it as, Oh, I have free help or you can go get me coffee and you can run and get my dry cleaning. These are not your slave labor.
Todd: [00:15:45] Exactly.
Brittney: [00:15:46] This is supposed to be an educational experience and that's what is important. And people should be walking away learning things instead of spending three months and saying, Oh, I know every subway line, and I know all the coffee shops in the neighborhood, because all I did was run errands all day.
Todd: [00:16:03] I mean, the interesting thing too, for me, Brittney, and those experiences, and I've had interns that worked for me over the years is--it was a learning experience for me, from them. That was like the things that I was shown from them was remarkable. So you're right. It is about a learning experience and it works two ways too. So... when it works.
Susan: [00:16:24] It just perpetuates this whole notion of who can be in that elite class. So at least in architecture, I don't know if it's still like this, but when I graduated years and years ago after having a Master's, to be an intern in some of the boutique places and the highest architectural firms. You interned for free after having your Masters’. And if you couldn't afford to do that, and I don't know who could, then you're never going to have access to those firms. So it just perpetuates... It's not just in fashion, it's not just in the art world. This is architecture, which is supposedly a commercial experience, but it just shows how those very old systems continue. I hope it's changing. I hope that my questioning you about, “is space changing,” I hope that helps. Because to live in New York as a new young architect, who's not being paid...I really don't know. I guess you just go to your trust fund. I mean, What else are you going to do? Right?
Brittney: [00:17:33] And all those people that don't have them. Right.
Todd: [00:17:36] Right. I mean, that was, that's the interesting thing about this sort of publication world and working at that system that works--or used to--function in those places, Brittney, like the fashion publications of like. The people that are assistants there aren't paid a living wage.
So they have to be like wealthy kids that have access. So the entry places are so few in those, those areas. So do you see that as something that's changing at all?
Brittney: [00:18:03] I think so. I mean, I think that a lot of internships are paid now. I think that across the board, the experience of interning is very different. There's no longer an expectation for interns to be running a ton of errands at a time. I think industry wide people are at least aware of it. So I do think that a lot of those things are changing and I think people have other options now. So rather than only have a limited few companies to intern for work for, they have opportunities to work with companies like Beyond 8, or tech companies like Team Epiphany even, or there's so many other companies that are doing great work and value and respect the support. And that's the thing. So I think that there are more options now than there were before.
Todd: [00:18:56] So Brittney, you've spoken about creating opportunities for people of color and people who are qualified for the job regardless of their background, as something that's important to you. Can you talk about your vision for creating a team and how you work to create equity in the workplace?
Brittney: [00:19:12] Yeah. I envision creating a team similar to what Susan was saying, where you don't have to have a trust fund to have an opportunity. You don't have to come from an elite family or lineage in order to get an interview. I want to employ and hire people that are qualified, that are interesting, that are creative.
I love working with young creatives because they have so many more new ideas and a fresh new take on things. And I actually started virtual office hours because--I started during quarantine--but prior to quarantine, I really wanted to have an opportunity to invite people into our offices and to meet with us and talk to us and pick our brains, and for me to get an opportunity to connect with someone new that may have emailed their resume, and maybe I looked over their resume. I'm not unique in the sense that sometimes something comes across my desk or in my inbox, and maybe the portfolio isn't as impressive as it could be, or maybe the resume isn't fully fleshed out. And because of those things, I might not take the time to have them come in and meet with them.
So because of that, I said, okay, let's just open our doors. Let's just see who we vibe with and who we connect with and what kind of relationships can develop out of that space and out of that experience. And so we weren't able to do them in our physical offices, so we started conversations online, and have just been connecting with new people. I've met a ton of new, really great people. I'm potentially working with some of them.
And I think that that's what it looks like. It takes a little bit more effort than people may expect or be used to, but it's worth it. There's so many talented people out there. It's worth it to put a little more effort into meeting people outside of the box and also helping them along their journey.
Susan: [00:21:11] That's a very generous way of working and a very people-oriented... So obviously you like people.
Brittney: [00:21:17] I do. I think people, people are so important and I always say this... we're human! When you're emailing, I think that this day and age, with so much digital technology, and everyone interacting via Instagram and on their phones and computers and all these things, it removes and eliminates that human to human person to person contact. [Todd: Thank you!] Like, Susan, you're a person that has a history, and Todd, you’re a person that has history.
Todd: [00:21:46] We've talked about that with other people here too, just about kind of our inaudible lives, how everything is just words without punctuations in our, like, everyday life. So yeah!
Brittney: [00:21:56] Yeah, it's wild. And you even think about that. Sometimes people aren't even writing full sentences. [Todd: totally.] They're not even addressing you and saying, Hey, how are you, and actually caring?
Todd: [00:22:08] What did those eight words mean? Was it like this, or this, or this?
Susan: [00:22:14] That would be me. I email people and say, “ok.” And people just hate that, I'm sure.
Todd: [00:22:21] Tell us about your work with Pyer Moss because that's been kind of game changing in the fashion industry, what they've done in your participation in making that happen.
Brittney: [00:22:31] So I actually met Kerby before he started Pyrmont so we had a mutual friend, Jason Gardner, who brought Kerby to a fashion show that I was producing. And he was like, I really want you to meet this guy, he’s looking to start a new brand, I think you could maybe help him, he has questions.
And it started from there. And he asked a series of questions in regards to how do you get celebrities to wear your clothes? And how does it work when you hire PR? And what happens when you want to do a fashion show? And all of those kinds of things. And I really, I loved Kerby. His brain is so smart. He's so creative. He is so in tune to what's happening, like with our current climate and everything, just all worldly things.
And I was always just really enamored by him and was drawn to him. And so in the beginning we just started working really, really closely together. I supported in introducing him to anyone that I had within my network. And one of my very good friends, Jeff David Gray did the PR actually pro bono at the onset just because he believed in Kerby and Pyer Moss as a brand.
We were able to get a lot in kind in the beginning, but keep in mind, like this is seven years ago, I guess? Just about, about seven years ago, and worked with him from then, until now. And it was a uphill journey and a battle. A lot of people didn't really see or believe in his vision, or at least... he didn't have the stamp of approval yet. I'll say that.
He didn't have that official stamp of approval from the Vogues and the New York Times and the whomever they felt he needed that stamp of approval from. So it was a struggle. Like, we worked very hard with a lot of no’s and a lot of challenges. And so it's beautiful now, that in the last two years or so people are really paying attention to what he's all about, what the brand stands for, and everyone seems to be really pleased with what we've created. And so it was so exciting to put together, like Weeksville, I mean, every show has been exciting, but Weeksville, and even King's Theater were really remarkable as well as the Spring Studios show.
Todd: [00:24:47] Do you think that that stamp of approval is as important now as it was, to get that endorsement from those places? Or is that something that's going along the wayside with some of the other parts of the hierarchy that are fading away?
Brittney: [00:25:04] I don't think it has gone to the wayside yet, but I do think that designers like Kerby are spearheading that conversation and creating space and opportunity for young designers to have an opportunity and a place for them to show up and express themselves in a unique way that they wouldn't have had before.
Susan: [00:25:28] And how do you think this quarantine is helping or hurting that?
Brittney: [00:25:32] Well, there's two parts to that. There's the part of the unfortunate, tragic loss of Ahmaud Arbery and George Floyd and Breonna Taylor that has steamrolled into the Black Lives Matter movement. Getting started up again, and I always have to reiterate that this isn't the first time we fought this isn't the first time we've lost someone. It has been like years and years and years of fighting.
However, because we're all in quarantine, it has gotten so massive and so much more attention. People have the time and the space to participate. And again, because of that, you now have this surge of interest in Black owned businesses, in Black creatives as a whole.
So that is then opening up additional opportunities for people to work, but who's to say... and a lot of people have kind of voiced this, who's to say what the climate will be three months from now and six months from now, just because brands are showing up right now, it's important for them to continue their commitment indefinitely and that this is not a temporary shift just to like check a box and make sure that our community is satisfied for the moment.
Todd: [00:26:52] Right. And then readdress it right when it happens the next time.
Susan: [00:26:57] I want to ask you a little bit about your grandmother, because I share a history with you in terms of naming my company after my grandmother. So I wanted to talk to you about why that's important to you.
Brittney: [00:27:07] Yeah. So when I was starting my company, it was the same year that my grandmother was passing, so she was sick from lung cancer. And so I knew from the onset, it would be named after her in some capacity, but I didn't know what or how or what words to use. I went through so many different options, but I knew that with her no longer being here, physically, that it was imperative that I had something tied to her for my business.
It's what keeps me going. It keeps her name alive. It keeps me motivated. It keeps me inspired. There's no way that I'm not going to fight and give everything that I have to keep this business going. When I'm always thinking about her. So that was the thought behind it. And I was fortunate enough to share the name with her before she passed, and she cried. So I'm pleased that she at least knew it would be Beyond 8 and because of her, and we've done so much with the names since then.
Todd: [00:28:11] That's really nice. Susan, how is your grandmother's name incorporated into the…
Susan: [00:28:18] Barrera: half-Mexican, from my mother's side. And I wanted to include the sort of matriarchal importance of the family. And if I had my Mexican name, I would be Susan Barrett Barrera and I wanted to include that heritage of it. So that's important to me.
Brittney: [00:28:36] That's beautiful. What I loved about
Susan: [00:28:38] seeing your story is that at least what I was trying to do in starting a company is to start it from a different perspective. And to start it from a female perspective. So if I were to run a company, how would it be different? How would it be from a female point of view? And it changed everything.
It changed, obviously healthcare and family and family care. And even though it's something that we keep bumping around and trying to make it more doable, it's important to keep that into perspective because, obviously, healthcare is family care and we are a majority of women in our office. So, we need to diverse in terms of letting some men come in. But we're very on that. [Laughter]
Brittney: [00:29:27] Diversal. I understand that too, [Laughter] I've gone that route before, it was all women. And now I have a good mix, but yeah, there was definitely a point it was pretty much all women right now.
Susan: [00:29:39] I know. That's its own thing. [Laughter]
Todd: [00:29:42] Brittney, is a physical space important to your work, where you come together? What's that like? And how is that now? What will be coming out of the way that you come together with your crew to work?
Brittney: [00:29:54] Yeah. It's interesting that you say that. I thought that it was, and in some capacity it is because we do have a lot of materials and equipment and things like that. So having at least a storage facility or something is key and then a place where we can build things out or do things on our own. However, I am shifting the thought around having an office space.
I have an office space in the city and I'm looking to close that and relocate to Brooklyn. It just makes more sense, people aren't going to want to go to Manhattan anymore. So it just makes more sense to be local, and streamline it, downsize. So that's kind of where we are.
Susan: [00:30:36] I have one question I never tried to wrap up, but what would be your dream job? What would you like to produce?
Brittney: [00:30:39], I would have to say my ultimate dream project would have to be the Superbowl Halftime Show. It was something I'd always thought about over the years when I was younger, when I was starting my career, I always think about like, wow, it's the most epic, big stage to produce a performance on. Unfortunately, the NFL has not done right by my community, by the Black community, by Colin Kaepernick.
And they got a lot of work to do before I would actually work with them. However, if I was dreaming up, what I would want to do that really would honestly be it. I mean, you have the opportunity to have all of the theatrical and work with someone amazing. And do something just really out of the box. It just seems so exciting to me.
Who'd be on there. Well I adore Beyonce. She's already performed, but I do adore Beyonce. She would probably be goals, her and Gaga.
Susan: [00:31:38] Ooh. And costuming? [Laughter] I know you've thought of it.
Brittney: [00:31:43] I actually, I haven't, because I think more of the production value, I think more of the visuals and the creative and what different vignettes you can create with dancers and singers and live performance.
I think that the music has to be strong. I think sometimes with The Superbowl, it's a lot about the theatrics, but not as much about the musicality. And so that would be really important to me, so making sure that the artists that was performing did something really impactful in that space and then all the bells and whistles we can add that's possible.
Todd: [00:32:14] I'd like to see it. I'd like to see your version of that for sure.
Susan: [00:32:18] That would be the only reason why I tune into the Superbowl really? Are there commercials or something along?
Brittney: [00:32:25] Yeah, I think the commercials are important too, but the performance is the most important.
Todd: [00:32:31] Well, thanks for doing this, Brittany. Let's keep in touch. I want to see what happens next.
Brittney: [00:32:35] Absolutely.
Todd: [00:32:37] Where you go with your transition into the next realm after re-imagining where we are today.
Susan: [00:32:44] Thank you so much!
Brittney: [00:32:45] Yeah. Thank you so much for chatting with me.
Susan: [00:32:48] No, this is great. Thank you.
Brittney: [00:32:51] We'll have to do it again soon.
Susan: [00:32:48] After the super bowl?
Todd: [00:32:37] Yeah, totally.
Brittney: [00:32:51] Love it!
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